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		<title>How would you react?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeroen Berkenbosch</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[About two months ago, I read a tweet of @MartijnKleppe (be sure to follow him if you&#8217;re Dutch/Belgian and into photojournalism) in which he linked to an article on the website of Dutch newspaper AD. The article (about people having boisterous sex in the city of Papendrecht, translation of the lead and first paragraph below) [...]<p><a href="http://www.jeroenberkenbosch.nl/blog/2009/11/how-would-you-react/">How would you react?</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.jeroenberkenbosch.nl/blog">Jeroen Berkenbosch - Blog</a></p>
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About two months ago, I read a tweet of <a href="http://twitter.com/martijnkleppe">@MartijnKleppe</a> (be sure to follow him if you&#8217;re Dutch/Belgian and into photojournalism) in which he linked to an article on the website of Dutch newspaper <a href="http://www.ad.nl">AD</a>. The article (about people having boisterous sex in the city of Papendrecht, translation of the lead and first paragraph below) used a photo from Flickr as an illustration, without crediting the photographer.</p>
<p><strong>Translation of the article</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Neighborhood annoyed by boisterous sex</strong></p>
<p>PAPENDRECHT &#8211; Inhabitants of the Talingstraat in Papendrecht are looking for a solution for a couple of neighbors whom having boisterous sex.</p>
<p>The couple moved in a short while ago and argue nearly every day. When the argument is over, they reconcile with noisy and passionate sex, which is still noticeable on the street.</p></blockquote>
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This made me really curious about a couple of things.</p>
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<li>Did the editor choose a right-free photo, or did they &#8216;steal&#8217; a copyrighted photo from Flickr?</li>
<li>What was the original intention of the photo?</li>
<li>What did the photographer think of this usage?</li>
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<p>Within five minutes I found the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/90982314@N00/3039574712/in/set-72157619533816600/">photo</a>, belonging to user <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/90982314@N00/">Tim PopUp</a>, using &#8216;Advanced Search&#8217; on Flickr. The editor did use a right-free photo, although they are still supposed to credit the photographer in the caption. The photo obviously wasn&#8217;t intended to be used in a sexual context.</p>
<p><strong>Conversation</strong><br />
I contacted the photographer and asked him what he thought about it. This was his first response (thanks Tim, for allowing me to publish the conversation!).</p>
<blockquote><p>Hello Jeroen</p>
<p>Thank you for taking the time to point this out to me, the photograph is of my daughter, she will be pleased.<br />
Your right they should at least credit me, I will contact them.</p>
<p>Kind Regards<br />
Tim</p></blockquote>
<p>My assumption was right; it was the photographers daughter. I felt I was obliged to tell Tim about the context of the photo, so I translated the lead and first paragraph of the article. I was quite surprised about his response. If it happened to one of my photos (especially in this context), I probably would probably be less pleased.</p>
<blockquote><p>Hi Jeroen</p>
<p>Thanks again, this does put it in a different light doesn&#8217;t it. I don&#8217;t think my daughter would be quite as pleased now! She might find it funny though.<br />
The photo has had quite a few views today, this explains it, I was wondering what was happening.<br />
Your photographs are great, lots of interest in them.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Tim</p></blockquote>
<p>Obviously, he isn&#8217;t pleased with the usage of his photo in this context, but his response is quite mild if you ask me. But then again; what&#8217;s the point of being pissed off at stuff like this? It wouldn&#8217;t do much good anyway. The photo is removed from the website of AD a couple of weeks ago, although it&#8217;s being linked to on websites like <a href="http://www.nujij.nl/buurt-baalt-van-herrieseks.6574180.lynkx">NuJij.nl</a>.</p>
<p>How would you react?</p>
<p>UPDATE: Tim&#8217;s wife posted a comment for more clarification. Be sure to read it!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jeroenberkenbosch.nl/blog/2009/11/how-would-you-react/">How would you react?</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.jeroenberkenbosch.nl/blog">Jeroen Berkenbosch - Blog</a></p>
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